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J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#1 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:10 pm

Guys, anyone one got a j2 wiring diagram they could share?
Im getting a bit peeved with the side stand cut out switch specifically. Every parts diagram shows the side stand to be a normal single spring no cut out switch. The wiring diagram for J1 shows a stand cut out switch with 2 wires.
The J2 bike I'm working on has a 2 spring side stand with a 4 wire side stand switch. 2 black, 1 red, and 1 blue/white. I can't find any diagram specifically for the J2 or any diagram for any model with a 4 wire switch. I'm not sure which which pairs should have continuity in which positions as it seems to change everytime I test it and have no diagram to check against.
Any pointers would be much appreciated.
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#2 PostAuthor: Kwackman » Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:41 pm

This MIGHT help- my Z400J has a similar set-up.
I've a Black & White wiring diagram- if you want I'll scan it and PM it to you?
From what I can see - one black goes via a single connector to the starting button on the RHS handle bar switch.
The other black goes via another single connector to the starting relay.
The Blue/white goes via a single connector, then a 2 pin multipin connector to the side stand relay.
The red I think is actually pink, and it goes via a single connector into the loom and joins the many brown cables.
All the above may be totally irrelevant of course!
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#3 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 21, 2022 4:47 pm

That might help thanks. First model I've heard of with a 4 wire set up so might clarify what's in front of me.
At least I might be able to work out how this thing is meant to work and what should do what in what position.
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#4 PostAuthor: Kwackman » Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:16 pm

No problem.
It'll be later tonight before I get scanning.
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#5 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:25 pm

That would be great thanks.
In the event the switch I have is useless do you happen to know the part number for the 4 wire switch?
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#6 PostAuthor: z1bman » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:29 pm

you need to be looking at uk models its listed on the Z1000 R2 uk model. part no 27010-1005
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#7 PostAuthor: Kwackman » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:44 pm

That's the same part number as for the Z400J too, so this wiring diagram might help.
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#8 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:47 pm

Ah, excellent. Just need to track down a diagram now.
The switch I have was behaving strangely and i have tracked that down to a crushed black wire beneath the heatshrink. It is now behaving consistently with the stand down blue/white and pink has continuity. With the stand up the two blacks have continuity. I assume that is how it should behave?
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#9 PostAuthor: z1bman » Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:59 pm

those type of switches where very unreliable that's why they changed them to the two wire type fully sealed unit

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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#10 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:09 pm

OK, my first experience of this type of switch. Hasn't gone well so far!
If it proves troublesome I will just delete it. Never left a side stand down in 45 years and don't intend to start now!
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#11 PostAuthor: BAFF1960 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:54 pm

Hi.
I have a GPz1100B2 that uses the same set up. All connections end up under the tank with one operating the side stand LED display. Strange thing I noticed the other day when fitting the front sprocket cover were 2 unused wires tucked away colour coded for the later plunger type switch! Its a German import.

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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#12 PostAuthor: Bill Newman » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:09 pm

[quote="warren3200gt"]Guys, anyone one got a j2 wiring diagram they could share?
Im getting a bit peeved with the side stand cut out switch specifically. Every parts diagram shows the side stand to be a normal single spring no cut out switch. The wiring diagram for J1 shows a stand cut out switch with 2 wires.
The J2 bike I'm working on has a 2 spring side stand with a 4 wire side stand switch. 2 black, 1 red, and 1 blue/white. I can't find any diagram specifically for the J2 or any diagram for any model with a 4 wire switch. I'm not sure which which pairs should have continuity in which positions as it seems to change everytime I test it and have no diagram to check against.
Any pointers would be much appreciated.[/quote]

Just seen this post - currently away from uk, but my last job before going away was to figure the exact same problem on a J2 restoration. My conclusions (from laying out a replacement loom with a lot of nos electric parts are as follows:
1. The J2 was the only model to use a clutch lock out switch and side stand cut off switch;
2. The J1 wiring diagram shows only the clutch lock out switch - hence the two wires (both black);
3. Those wires run parallel to the l/h switch loom to a white block connectors located under the tank;
4. The four wire side stand switch runs 2 wires to the side stand relay and two others which I think run to the two “spares” referred to earlier. I didn't have time to test the connections before going on holiday - but am happy to tell you the results early next week

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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#13 PostAuthor: warren3200gt » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:55 pm

That would be handy Bill, thanks. Got a few parts to sort before the loom goes back on so not super desperate.
If your in need John sent me a J2 diagram which is in German but even I can translate blinker! The rest is also fairly obvious.
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Re: J2 wiring diagram wanted.

#14 PostAuthor: Bill Newman » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:19 am

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